You Have to Step Back to Scale

Most CEOs arrive in the seat because they outworked everyone, outperformed everyone, and inserted themselves into everything. Lindsay Glassco, President and CEO of Plan International Canada, a humanitarian and development organization working in 85 countries with revenues over $310 million last year, holds that the habit that produced the promotion is the habit that will stop the company from scaling. Glenn Gow, The Scaling Executive Coach and host of The Scaling Executive Podcast, identifies letting go as the single most common growth barrier CEOs describe to him. When an organization reaches a scale that exceeds one leader’s personal bandwidth, the CEO must reduce oversight and run the work through senior executives, because the alternative caps the organization at the CEO’s own capacity.

This episode is for CEOs who believe that scaling requires them to be more involved, and whose executive teams are waiting for permission to run their own functions.

Key Takeaways

  • Scaling pulls a CEO in the opposite direction from instinct. Lindsay Glassco states that leaders think scaling demands more involvement, and that the truth is the reverse.
  • The CEO’s job is not to be resilient. Glassco argues resilience must be built into the people, processes, systems, and behaviors of the organization, so the place holds together when the leader walks out.
  • Transparency buys performance, not just goodwill. Glassco ties radical transparency directly to trust, and trust directly to how hard people will work.
  • Strategy clarity comes from mechanics, not messaging. At Plan International Canada, the strategic objectives sit inside the performance review as a required dropdown, and the scorecard is reviewed quarterly with all staff.
  • AI will not separate winners from losers. Glassco expects everyone to have access to similar tools, which leaves ways of working, operating models, leadership capacity, and culture as the differentiators.

CEOs Scale Through Their People by Reducing Oversight, Not Increasing It

Lindsay Glassco, President and CEO of Plan International Canada, names the profile precisely. CEOs get to the seat by working hard, outperforming, often by being the smartest person in the room, and by having a hand in everything. That profile builds careers. It does not build organizations.

“I think when people think you’re scaling, you’ve got to be more involved. I think it’s the opposite.”

Glassco arrived at Plan International Canada in 2020 and found a large, sophisticated organization with a strong C-suite already in place. Her conclusion was to step back and let them do the work, which required accepting less oversight and trusting her senior executives to deliver without her in the middle.

She governs the exception with a rule rather than an instinct. A CEO will drop into a problem when the problem is real, resolve it, and then climb back out fast, because staying in the detail turns the CEO into a disruption to the people who own that work. “I often think of my job as piloting a helicopter where I hover, and then if there’s a real issue, I’ll do a deep dive, get into it, but I have to know when to pull out and pull out quickly.”

CEOs Build Resilience Into the Organization Instead of Carrying It Themselves

I hear the letting-go problem from CEOs constantly, and it almost never presents as a control problem. It presents as a trust question. Have I developed this leader far enough to hand this over? Lindsay Glassco, President and CEO of Plan International Canada, answers it by changing where resilience lives.

“It’s actually not about the leader, it’s about creating a resilient organization.”

The industry talks about leaders who are emotionally steady, adaptable, and driven. Glassco says those traits in one person are not enough. “You need to know that when the leader walks out, the organization is sustainable and not gonna fall apart.” That standard is what makes an organization scalable, and it turns resilience into a build project rather than a personal quality.

She builds it three ways. Trust comes from communication volume and what she calls radical transparency: “The more transparent you are, the more you communicate, the more people feel like they’re in it together, the more they will trust and the harder they’ll perform.” Adaptability comes from making experimentation safe, so staff will innovate knowing that failure will not be punished and that they will be respected for bringing a different perspective. Purpose comes from clarity about who the organization is and what it is trying to achieve, held consistently enough that every employee will locate their own work inside it.

Staff Connect Their Work to Strategy When CEOs Build Strategy Into Performance Reviews and Scorecards

Lindsay Glassco, President and CEO of Plan International Canada, reports that 98% of her staff know exactly how they contribute to the strategic plan, a figure the organization measures through staff surveys. That number is not the product of a strong internal communications campaign. It is the product of a set of mechanics that make the strategy unavoidable.

MechanismHow it works at Plan International Canada
Staff-built strategyLeaders across the organization joined task forces on specific issues, and online surveys collected input, so the plan arrived with staff fingerprints on it
Launch summitTwo full days with everyone together, running sessions on each part of the strategy and opening conversation on individual initiatives
Performance review linkGoals, self-assessment, and review are tied to strategic objectives through a required dropdown, so finance, technology, and marketing staff each select the objective their work serves
Quarterly scorecardEvery town hall includes a color-coded scorecard walkthrough, showing all staff the results against each KPI and the strategic direction it maps to
Board and deck standardEvery PowerPoint opens with the one-pager on the strategy, then the circle showing the topic at hand, then the detail

Glassco’s point about the last item is the one CEOs tend to miss. The reporting format became the behavior. Once every document starts from the strategy, nobody needs reminding what the strategy is.

Leadership Capacity and Culture Will Differentiate Organizations After AI Becomes Universal

Lindsay Glassco, President and CEO of Plan International Canada, is candid that she is the least technically adept person in her building, and she is using AI across every function anyway. Her teams report automation of routine work, productivity gains, and time returned to strategic work, creative work, and relationship building. What AI does not replace is human judgment, the connections people build with each other, or leadership decision making.

Her adoption posture is deliberate. Plan International Canada has chosen to be a fast follower: out of the gate, but letting others run the experiments first, then following what succeeds. Glassco ties that choice to a constraint the private sector does not share, because her organization must pilot initiatives and be sure of them before committing funds that donors gave for a purpose. The organization also holds data on donors and on children in vulnerable populations, which raises the cost of moving early and getting it wrong.

The strategic conclusion is the part CEOs must sit with. Glassco does not expect AI to drive organizational success, because she expects everyone to reach similar tools. The differentiator will be the ability to change ways of working, to fit AI into the operating model, and to keep building leadership capacity and culture, which will decide scaling outcomes after the tools equalize.

CEOs Apply Four Principles to Scale Beyond Their Own Capacity

PrincipleWhat it means in practiceNamed evidence from this interview
Hover, do not landStay above the work, drop into a problem only when it is real, and climb back out before your presence becomes the disruptionGlassco applies the helicopter rule to a C-suite running an organization with revenues over $310 million across 85 countries, a span no CEO will operate by staying in the detail
Resilience belongs to the organization, not the leaderBuild emotional steadiness, adaptability, and trust into people, processes, systems, and behaviors so the organization holds when the leader is goneGlassco reframed resilient leadership as resilient organization at Plan International Canada and treats survival without the CEO as the test of whether the organization is scalable at all
Transparency converts into performanceIncrease communication volume and candor deliberately, because trust is what produces effortGlassco credits radical transparency with the sense across her staff that they are in it together, which she links directly to how hard people perform
Wire the strategy into the machineryPut strategic objectives inside performance reviews, quarterly scorecards, and every board deck until referencing them becomes the default behaviorSurvey results at Plan International Canada show 98% of staff know exactly how they contribute to the strategic plan

Quotes from This Episode

  • “There’s gotta be more to life than just putting a lot of money into a big corporation.” — Lindsay Glassco, President and CEO, Plan International Canada
  • “I actually wanted to see poverty firsthand.” — Lindsay Glassco, President and CEO, Plan International Canada
  • “When people with intellectual disability are participating in sport, they’re making friends, they’re building confidence, they’re much healthier.” — Lindsay Glassco, President and CEO, Plan International Canada
  • “If you want to get something done, you give it to a busy person. I think that’s the profile of a lot of CEOs.” — Lindsay Glassco, President and CEO, Plan International Canada
  • “It’s very easy for us to galvanize people behind our purpose.” — Lindsay Glassco, President and CEO, Plan International Canada

Frequently Asked Questions

How does a CEO know when to let go of control and step back?

Lindsay Glassco, President and CEO of Plan International Canada, uses the helicopter standard: hover above the work, drop into a problem when the problem is genuinely serious, then pull out quickly, because a CEO who stays in the detail becomes disruptive to the people who own it. Glassco says CEOs reach the seat by outperforming and being involved in everything, and that scaling requires reducing oversight and trusting senior executives to do the work instead. Glenn Gow, The Scaling Executive Coach and host of The Scaling Executive Podcast, hears the letting-go problem from CEOs more often than any other scaling barrier, usually framed as uncertainty about whether a leader has been developed far enough to take the handoff.

How do you build an organization that does not depend on the CEO?

Lindsay Glassco argues that resilience must sit in the organization rather than in the leader, and that the test is whether the organization stays sustainable when the leader walks out. At Plan International Canada she builds that through trust created by high communication volume and radical transparency, through adaptability created by making experimentation safe from punishment, and through clarity of purpose that lets every employee locate their own work inside the strategy. Glassco describes the build as people, processes, systems, and behaviors, so the organization will adapt together when conditions change.

How do you get every employee to understand how their work supports the strategy?

Lindsay Glassco reports that 98% of Plan International Canada staff know exactly how they contribute to the strategic plan, measured through staff surveys, and she credits mechanics rather than messaging. Staff helped build the plan through task forces and online surveys, the launch was a two-day all-staff summit, and the performance review requires each employee to select the strategic objective their goals serve from a dropdown. Every town hall includes a color-coded scorecard review of the organization’s KPIs, and every board deck opens with the strategy one-pager, until referencing the strategy became the default behavior.

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Glenn Gow is The Scaling Executive Coach. He coaches ambitious executives into the CEO seat and CEOs into successful exits. With 25 years as a CEO and 5 years in venture capital, Glenn helps leaders scale their companies by scaling themselves first. If this conversation was useful, you can apply for executive coaching with Glenn Gow or apply to be a guest on The Scaling Executive Podcast. 

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